(POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

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Should we reset all characters before Faction Wars or tomorrow to level 15

Poll ended at Tue May 01, 2012 1:59 pm

Yes, reset before Faction Wars
20
45%
No, I will invest time & I don't want reset
24
55%
Reset tomorrow to level 15 to even all out
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 44

Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Cluers » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:09 pm

Hey guys!

I ve been reading all your points and posts along this afternoon (didnt want to miss any so i just stayed calm as i see one point of view or another) and finally this is my opinion about this issue, i think its very important to decide this now, so i ll try to explain myself, hope i can be of help.

Well, first of all, we have to focus on the key points of this thread: the thread is about wiping or not. And the key points of it are 3:

- Advantages and who gets them?

Both options, to reset or not to reset, have advantages and disadvantages.

If we dont reset now, the pros are very clear. Many players will be top level and this will help funding the game since people will start buying stuff. Besides, all of our work will be saved. I have to disagree here with the point of "iOS users being discouraged to play, WoW has 13 million of players and people keep joining.
When you have a nice game, everybody wants to play and be a TOP. Of course this is kind of "unfair" to iOS users (like me) but since PC version is being released this week, it doesnt matter. We ll have time to keep up with it, dont we?



If we make a reset whenever (i ll deal with this later) the pros are that we will start again everything, which will be nice for bugs testing, and also will help making the start of the game fair for everybody. iOs and android will start at the same time and everybody will be happy. The cons are that actual players will lose eveything they have, but well they knew it before so no problem. Also, since many people is joining now, we wont have any problems in testing, and this new guys will just learn how to play soon, you have to learn how to play in all games, and there will be our top players helping them!

But since a mmorpg is based on its number of players, and admin has stated that a lot of new players have join this will carry us to the next point...

- Business model?

Everybody knows that this is a startup project, even when it is a fantastic open source game, devs have to eat and earn their lives, they at least have to earn some money to keep the game alive.

MMORGPs = people playing

And since a mmorpg is based on the people playing, the first users are the key users, im not going to say that this new users are the core we need, but if we make a reset we ll just destroy them, since it is clear now, so few read the forum (my friends bougth dragon and mounts, and when i told them to join forum, they just told me " i want to play, dont care about forum. Pity is like that, but is real).

People is buying if they can keep it. If we wipe everything they are buying, no one will buy, and the game will be in danger. Admin has stated that they really need funding, so this is a really important point

- So what do we do, and how will this affect to the game in the future?

In my view, and i think that hex and bod, and all the others are rigth in their statements, i think that the best option right now, and after seeing how things are developing, is NOT TO RESET.

A 15 lvl reset though is not a bad option, but this, and im with hex, should take place the day you release google play version, so when iOS and android can play togheter. In that i fully agree with hex and bod, if you want to reset, do it when both are playing (hours before) but as i ve stated i think it will be best for the game not to do it.

So in the future, none of the people,just us and a little bit more, will remember this moment, and more and more players will be joining.

With that said, im with bod that level cap must be increased a little bit faster admin, people will get tired if not, just make it one level by one level but every month or every two weeks, and also new gears should be implemented, this will keep people looting for them, and the next top levels.


So what do you think?

Just my view guys, of course, there will be different points of view, but i ve tried to say what i think is better for the game inthe future (i have only one PJ and its only lvl 5 so no personal interest on it hahaha)

PS: as for traits, id propose to give the points to the players and an option to reset with somehow (maybe ingame money), so that, if we make a huge mistake, we can change it,that will solve all those problems!

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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby admin » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:12 pm

If there is any items which is not planned to really be in game like legendary weapon was those items will be removed. Also current max gear is 3 gear tiers/levels below max level so as far a gear goes there is is time advantage but that's it.

On side not for us from development point of view we need to somehow test high end bosses before majority hit them so if a few player are first it helps. I don't think there is more that 15 players in the game with current level good gear so they can start testing new dungeons when they are ready.
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Hex » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:20 pm

For Thesues & Others

admin wrote:It does not make sense since game is going public end of this weeks.

Decision need to be done now because we need to honest and tell people who join on goolge plus that they will play but all will reset


I did really like the idea of Reset when IOS is released but not possible apparently.
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Hex » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:22 pm

Nice informational post cluers ;)
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Cluers » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:25 pm

@hex thanks! that was my option at first hex, and still think its a very good one, but since admin says they need pro players like you or others testing high level stuff, dungeons and that, and all that i ve posted, i ll stay with the non reset option.

But yes, i liked so much your option but since no possible, think that non reset it will hel the game, you know,as always, just trying to help! ; )

Most important thing here is WoM in the long run, we are building THE mmorpg for mobile devices!
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Hex » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:28 pm

Side question:

What will we do when we cannot play on both sides of the faction, If no reset occurs.

I now have a level 25 alliance mage (Didn't want to actually be on alliance)

And a level 25 Fury Templar (Didn't want to actually play templar)

Do i have to restart anyways because my mage is on alliance and nothing is being reset? Meaning she will be deleted.
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Vallkyr » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:48 pm

Bravo Cluers, great post, very informational
This leaves no doubt in my mind why you are a Mod
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Ritualist » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:56 pm

Hex wrote:I now have a level 25 alliance mage (Didn't want to actually be on alliance)...


Didn't "reset" put you back on lvl 1 and strip you down of all ingame items? Meaning that Faction/Race/Class all stayed them same after the big wipe. Wouldn't you have had to delete the Mage and probably loose your title if you wanted to change then to the other faction?
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby BodMasta » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:59 pm

We definitely chose wisely, well said Cluers +1

Just read through the rest that I missed, an I must be truthful to myself, but to know that theres even a slight chance that it will not be reset leaves me very unnerved. (And the way this Poll is going its pretty much set in stone.
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Re: (POLL) to reset or not to reset that is the question

Postby Pharcyde » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:03 pm

If a player is hardcore enough, they can catch up. That is what happened in Pocket Legends, after a whole year, the game finally went to Android, and most of the top players today are android users, even though they are a year behind.

The only reason that would make me say no is if Android users are going to get anything exclusive. IOS users can catch up on level, gold, and gears, but they cannot catch up on discountinued items or titles, unless they are tradeable.

When looking at reset or not, I think we need to take "bringing hardcore back" into account. This is a game for extreme players. Extreme players should be able to bounce back to top level very fast after being reset. Or if there is no reset, extreme IOS users should be able to meet the Android users at the top very shortly.

Also, awesome post Cluers. I would love to see a reset once IOS gets into the game, but I guess that is not a option.
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